Posts by Albert Einstein

When J. Barr was in my country 15 years ago at the international convention, I had the "priviledge" to be an interpretor of his talk in my language. For this reason we had met for rehearsals few times during the convention (together with the other translators - german, polish etc..)

He was really very friendly guy, thouhgh he was quite old alredy. So nice, smiling and friendly .... I couldnt imagine him to make or push some decision, he was just smiling and agreeing on everything, it seemed to me he is overshadowed by the others GB members (Ted Jaracz was travelling with him to the convention and he was the very opposite personality...).

Albert

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Getting my children out

by God_Delusion in

my wife is still in and no matter what logic i show her, she still wants to continue with the cult.

for me, she's a lost cause.

i explained the 607 factor and her reaction to that was "well, that isn't important to me as i still believe, plus, there's no where else for me to go.".

Albert Einstein

Confli: show no threat to your wife

Great point! People around your wife will be telling her you might/want to break your family. (My wife did think I wanted to do it, when I started speaking "apostate stuff". Tell her you love her, you love the family, you do not want to break it, that you have confidence in the Bible (if this is the case).

BTW, it will be probably easier for you to help your wife if you will keep reading the Bible and talk about spiritual things...., than if you would become an atheist all of sudden.

Albert

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Getting my children out

by God_Delusion in

my wife is still in and no matter what logic i show her, she still wants to continue with the cult.

for me, she's a lost cause.

i explained the 607 factor and her reaction to that was "well, that isn't important to me as i still believe, plus, there's no where else for me to go.".

Albert Einstein

My wife is still in and no matter what logic I show her, she still wants to continue with the cult.

The stupid mistake I did, was the same: I was using logic to explain my wife she lives in a destructive cult instead of a spiritual paradise. I couldnt undersatnd why she does not get it, if I bring so many logical points.... What an idiot I was....

Work more with emotions, help her first to admit, that:

1) The life we have "in last days" is not that bad... (what other century would you like to live in?)

2) Governing body makes serious mistakes, that afect lifes of rank and file JW, .... is this fair?

3) Governing body makes serious mistakes, and never admits them (was this an attitude of early chiristians?)

4) "Worldly people" are not that bad, actually if you get to know them, they are nice

5) Every child should have a real freedom of choice when it comes to religion (as well as marriage, job....) Does anyone has a right to pre-plan that for kids? (How do you understand real freedom of choice?)

etc...

Good luck man!

Albert

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Getting my children out

by God_Delusion in

my wife is still in and no matter what logic i show her, she still wants to continue with the cult.

for me, she's a lost cause.

i explained the 607 factor and her reaction to that was "well, that isn't important to me as i still believe, plus, there's no where else for me to go.".

Albert Einstein

Hi GD,

I have very similar story. My wife was raised in an ultra hard core JW family, we have 3 kids (8,1,1).

It took 1,5 years of explaining to get to the point, that my wife has no problem missing meetings, she see the manipulation has no problem when I teach our son about cults and explain JW are a cult.

What you need is a:

1) good plan

2) meet your wife with nice "wordly people" and help her to make friends out of JW cult

3) patience, patience, patience....

BTW - great turning point for my wife was reading a book ESCAPE by Carolyn Jessop - its a life story of a girl raised up as a fundamental mormon, how she managed to free herself from the cult with her kids.

JW should have no problem to read it, since it is about "false religion", but when you read it, you see incredible similarities in manipulation of rank and file memebers as well as within the the family.... Strongly recomeneded for JW!!!

Albert

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